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Quarrels and Disputes · Snp 4.11

Early Buddhist verse · Snp 4.11

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Questions trace quarrels and disputes through their conditions, including what is dear, desire and perception.

Quarrels and Disputes · Snp 4.11

“Where do quarrels and disputes come from?
And lamentation and sorrow, and stinginess?
What of conceit and arrogance, and slander too—
tell me please, where do they come from?”

“Quarrels and disputes come from what we hold dear,
as do lamentation and sorrow, stinginess,
conceit and arrogance.
Quarrels and disputes are linked to stinginess,
and when disputes have arisen there is slander.”

“So where do things held dear in the world spring from?
And the lusts that are loose in the world?
Where spring the hopes and aims
a man has for lives to come?”

“What we hold dear in the world spring from desire,
as do the lusts that are loose in the world.
From there spring the hopes and aims
a man has for lives to come.”

“So where does desire in the world spring from?
And evaluations, too, where do they come from?
And anger, lies, and indecision,
and other things spoken of by the Ascetic?”

“What they call pleasure and pain in the world—
based on that, desire comes about.
Seeing the manifestation and vanishing of forms,
a personage makes evaluations in the world.

Anger, lies, and indecision—
these things are, too, when that pair is present.
One who is indecisive should train in the path of knowledge;
it is from knowledge that the Ascetic speaks of these things.”

“Where do pleasure and pain spring from?
When what is absent do these things not occur?
And also, on the topic of manifesting and vanishing—
tell me where they spring from.”

“Pleasure and pain spring from contact;
when contact is absent they do not occur.
And on the topic of manifesting and vanishing—
I tell you they spring from there.”

“So where does contact in the world spring from?
And possessions, too, where do they come from?
When what is absent is there no possessiveness?
When what vanishes do contacts not strike?”

“Name and form cause contact;
possessions spring from wishing;
when wishing is absent there is no possessiveness;
when form vanishes, contacts don’t strike.”

“Form vanishes for one proceeding how?
And how do happiness and suffering vanish?
Tell me how they vanish;
I think we ought to know these things.”

“Without normal perception or distorted perception;
not lacking perception, nor perceiving what has vanished.
Form vanishes for one proceeding thus;
for judgments due to proliferation spring from perception.”

“Whatever I asked you have explained to me.
I ask you once more, please tell me this:
Do some astute folk here say that this is the highest extent
of purity of the spirit?
Or do they say it is something else?”

“Some astute folk do say that this is the highest extent
of purity of the spirit.
But some of them, claiming to be experts,
speak of an occasion when there is no residue.

Knowing that these states are dependent,
and knowing what they depend on, the inquiring sage,
having understood, is freed, and enters no dispute.
The attentive do not proceed to life after life.”

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